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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://nickcavefixes.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/melancholy-smoke-the-muse-evil-and-a-song/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vinny,

I understand exactly what you mean about Nick&#039;s relationship with his Muse, at that time, and his feeling he had misused her.  My sense of things is that he&#039;s worked through it and gone beyond the need to flog himself for earning money from his art.

Personally, I think it has to do with one&#039;s sense of self-worth and making some kind of peace with the commercial use of your art, whatever that might be.  I think we all agree Nick Cave is the hardest working man in show business (James Brown&#039;s &#039;title&#039; for many years, rest his soul) and that he deserves all of the success he&#039;s currently enjoying, monetary and otherwise.

I appreciate you coming back to clarify.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vinny,</p>
<p>I understand exactly what you mean about Nick&#8217;s relationship with his Muse, at that time, and his feeling he had misused her.  My sense of things is that he&#8217;s worked through it and gone beyond the need to flog himself for earning money from his art.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it has to do with one&#8217;s sense of self-worth and making some kind of peace with the commercial use of your art, whatever that might be.  I think we all agree Nick Cave is the hardest working man in show business (James Brown&#8217;s &#8216;title&#8217; for many years, rest his soul) and that he deserves all of the success he&#8217;s currently enjoying, monetary and otherwise.</p>
<p>I appreciate you coming back to clarify.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t in the sense that he was whoring himself for money.  It was that he used his muse to whore himself out to make money, which is what really didn&#039;t sit well with Nick.  Granted, I don&#039;t think Nick and the Seeds have ever really cared about money, seeing how they change styles every other album and do nothing much for marketing themselves (maybe it&#039;s just this way in the U.S.?).  It&#039;s one of the reasons I love them so much.  They&#039;re not afraid to do what they want to do.  Integrity is a rarity on most band resumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t in the sense that he was whoring himself for money.  It was that he used his muse to whore himself out to make money, which is what really didn&#8217;t sit well with Nick.  Granted, I don&#8217;t think Nick and the Seeds have ever really cared about money, seeing how they change styles every other album and do nothing much for marketing themselves (maybe it&#8217;s just this way in the U.S.?).  It&#8217;s one of the reasons I love them so much.  They&#8217;re not afraid to do what they want to do.  Integrity is a rarity on most band resumes.</p>
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		<title>By: SoFarFromMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoFarFromMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great seeing this interview again. And yeah, I also agree with everything that Nick says about society trying to cure sadness and what a crock of crap that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great seeing this interview again. And yeah, I also agree with everything that Nick says about society trying to cure sadness and what a crock of crap that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((DEB))  You go, girl! You are entirely magnificent when you get fired-up about Our Nick.

RE: Sadness

That&#039;s a very important observation he&#039;s making. What is going on in our society where so many people are on anti-depressants?  Why are sadness and anger viewed as pathological conditions? I worked as a pharmacy tech for years while going for my anthropology degree.  Horrified by the number of people on psychotropic drugs and the effects of such practices.

Here&#039;s a CNN article explaining exactly what I mean:
&lt;blockquote&gt;CDC: Antidepressants most prescribed drugs in U.S.
(CNN, Mon July 9, 2007)

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Dr. Ronald Dworkin tells the story of a woman who didn&#039;t like the way her husband was handling the family finances. She wanted to start keeping the books herself but didn&#039;t want to insult her husband. The doctor suggested she try an antidepressant to make herself feel better. 

She got the antidepressant, and she did feel better, said Dr. Dworkin, a Maryland anesthesiologist and senior fellow at Washington&#039;s Hudson Institute, who told the story in his book &quot;Artificial Unhappiness: The Dark Side of the New Happy Class.&quot; But in the meantime, Dworkin says, the woman&#039;s husband led the family into financial ruin. 

&quot;Doctors are now medicating unhappiness,&quot; said Dworkin. &quot;Too many people take drugs when they really need to be making changes in their lives.&quot;

For Dworkin, the proof is in the statistics. According to a government study, antidepressants have become the most commonly prescribed drugs in the United States. They&#039;re prescribed more than drugs to treat high blood pressure, high cholesterol, asthma, or headaches...

...While [genuine depression] is driving the prescription numbers, Dr. Robert Goodman, an internist in New York City, says the real force behind skyrocketing antidepressant prescription rates is pharmaceutical marketing to doctors and to consumers. &quot;You put those two together and you get a lot of prescriptions for antidepressants,&quot; he said. 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/09/antidepressants/index.html&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s the drug company lobby, it&#039;s Big Pharma, and prescription drugs are marketed to people like soap powder.  Jesus, that pisses me off.  We&#039;re living in Huxley&#039;s &#039;Brave New World&#039;, I tell you.  Oops. I sound angry.  Better than taking a Prozac or a Soma.  Everyone should be outraged about it.  America&#039;s RX drug culture is very real.  This country refuses to legalize medical marijuana but thinks nothing of advertising sleeping pills like Ambien as appropriate for mild-moderate sleeplessness.  Whatever happened to warm milk or cocoa or hot tea?  Or a lovely selection of Nick&#039;s love songs (or Blixa&#039;s hypnotic purrs).  That works for me!  TRY IT! ;D

Well, that was some rant. ;)  Great convos.
Cheers, everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((DEB))  You go, girl! You are entirely magnificent when you get fired-up about Our Nick.</p>
<p>RE: Sadness</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a very important observation he&#8217;s making. What is going on in our society where so many people are on anti-depressants?  Why are sadness and anger viewed as pathological conditions? I worked as a pharmacy tech for years while going for my anthropology degree.  Horrified by the number of people on psychotropic drugs and the effects of such practices.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a CNN article explaining exactly what I mean:</p>
<blockquote><p>CDC: Antidepressants most prescribed drugs in U.S.<br />
(CNN, Mon July 9, 2007)</p>
<p>ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) &#8212; Dr. Ronald Dworkin tells the story of a woman who didn&#8217;t like the way her husband was handling the family finances. She wanted to start keeping the books herself but didn&#8217;t want to insult her husband. The doctor suggested she try an antidepressant to make herself feel better. </p>
<p>She got the antidepressant, and she did feel better, said Dr. Dworkin, a Maryland anesthesiologist and senior fellow at Washington&#8217;s Hudson Institute, who told the story in his book &#8220;Artificial Unhappiness: The Dark Side of the New Happy Class.&#8221; But in the meantime, Dworkin says, the woman&#8217;s husband led the family into financial ruin. </p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors are now medicating unhappiness,&#8221; said Dworkin. &#8220;Too many people take drugs when they really need to be making changes in their lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>For Dworkin, the proof is in the statistics. According to a government study, antidepressants have become the most commonly prescribed drugs in the United States. They&#8217;re prescribed more than drugs to treat high blood pressure, high cholesterol, asthma, or headaches&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;While [genuine depression] is driving the prescription numbers, Dr. Robert Goodman, an internist in New York City, says the real force behind skyrocketing antidepressant prescription rates is pharmaceutical marketing to doctors and to consumers. &#8220;You put those two together and you get a lot of prescriptions for antidepressants,&#8221; he said. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/09/antidepressants/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/09/antidepressants/index.html</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s the drug company lobby, it&#8217;s Big Pharma, and prescription drugs are marketed to people like soap powder.  Jesus, that pisses me off.  We&#8217;re living in Huxley&#8217;s &#8216;Brave New World&#8217;, I tell you.  Oops. I sound angry.  Better than taking a Prozac or a Soma.  Everyone should be outraged about it.  America&#8217;s RX drug culture is very real.  This country refuses to legalize medical marijuana but thinks nothing of advertising sleeping pills like Ambien as appropriate for mild-moderate sleeplessness.  Whatever happened to warm milk or cocoa or hot tea?  Or a lovely selection of Nick&#8217;s love songs (or Blixa&#8217;s hypnotic purrs).  That works for me!  TRY IT! ;D</p>
<p>Well, that was some rant. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Great convos.<br />
Cheers, everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: damselfly58</title>
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		<dc:creator>damselfly58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love this interview and remember being excited about seeing it.  i recorded it at the time on VHS. re nick whoring himself out.  should he be making music for free? is the music better if it is free? it is very hard to make a living from music. most musicians do it for a little while and then get a day job.  you have to be very good and very lucky to make a career of it.  anyway it is nicks life and i am grateful for the music and the live performances and everything else he has given me.  i also like his view on sadness.  it is integral to our being.  people are very uncomfortable with sadness.  it needs to be fixed. anyway, great walk down memory lane with this one morgan.
xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this interview and remember being excited about seeing it.  i recorded it at the time on VHS. re nick whoring himself out.  should he be making music for free? is the music better if it is free? it is very hard to make a living from music. most musicians do it for a little while and then get a day job.  you have to be very good and very lucky to make a career of it.  anyway it is nicks life and i am grateful for the music and the live performances and everything else he has given me.  i also like his view on sadness.  it is integral to our being.  people are very uncomfortable with sadness.  it needs to be fixed. anyway, great walk down memory lane with this one morgan.<br />
xx</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favorite Nick interviews ever! So casual and it really expresses a lot, we find out answers to questions that we all want to ask. =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite Nick interviews ever! So casual and it really expresses a lot, we find out answers to questions that we all want to ask. =]</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that struck me as absolutely spot on was Nick saying society has a problem with sadness!  They try to cure it. Everyone is expected to go about with a smile pasted on their face or else go into therapy and get yourself sorted out.  Bah!  I love Nick for claiming melancholy as a natural state of being for himself in that time period.  We all go through these states where we need to own our emotions.  To hell with the societal status.  Bullshit.  Been there.  Totally get it.  Adore him for his courage in this interview.  So f*cking wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that struck me as absolutely spot on was Nick saying society has a problem with sadness!  They try to cure it. Everyone is expected to go about with a smile pasted on their face or else go into therapy and get yourself sorted out.  Bah!  I love Nick for claiming melancholy as a natural state of being for himself in that time period.  We all go through these states where we need to own our emotions.  To hell with the societal status.  Bullshit.  Been there.  Totally get it.  Adore him for his courage in this interview.  So f*cking wonderful!</p>
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