[Grinderman] are addressing certain subjects about masculinity, about what it is to be a man in this day and age … We’re opening the debate. And no one else is. – Nick Cave
Nick Cave & Co. Open the Debate on Love, Sex, Sexism
By Sarah Jaffe – August 20, 2010 (Billboard)
NEW YORK (Billboard) – Australian post-punk hero Nick Cave has skipped from project to project during his 37-year career, but he’s always maintained his pasty-faced, black-clad persona. An especially dark and sexual vibe runs through the latest album by his band Grinderman.
Cave and drummer Jim Sclavunos spoke to Billboard about “Grinderman 2,” due September 14 on Mute.
Billboard: Does the release of the new album help establish Grinderman as more than a side project?
Jim Sclavunos: It never was a throwaway (or) a side project –it’s been more of an offshoot than a side project.
Nick Cave: We made two albums, (which is) more than some fully fledged bands.
Sclavunos: It was pretty natural because we had been doing this Nick Cave solo thing, which was basically Nick and Warren (Ellis) going out and doing smaller arrangements of Bad Seeds songs, and from that it started taking on its own momentum. Marty (Casey) and I joined and gave the whole operation a bit of balls.
It got to a point where it started upsetting audiences in Germany. They had come for an intimate evening with Nick Cave and they got their heads ripped off.
These other elements started getting introduced into those songs that hadn’t been there before, and there was kind of an aggressive edge to the whole thing. There were certain ideas that were floating around, especially with Warren, that weren’t finding a place in the Bad Seeds, so it made sense to have an outlet for that. And Grinderman was eventually what that outlet became.
Billboard: Carrie Brownstein, on her NPR blog, wrote that the rise of bearded indie rockers was a harbinger of a lack of danger in rock music. You’re known for epic facial hair and for making some pretty dangerous rock ‘n’ roll. Where do those notions of masculinity and danger fit for you?
Cave: What we’re trying to do is to make original music that’s based on improvisation, and within that explore themes as men in the autumn or winter of their lives, trying to make music that has a sexuality to it. But within that sexuality it has all the bubbling neuroses and terror and violence that run through the heads of men of our age and distinction. KEEP READING
Copyright 2010 Reuters News Service. Extract reblogged from ABC News/Entertainment